discussion4disciple: June 2020

As of now, when we follow the will of GOD, is by reading bible, understand, if we are in agreement, then, we do it. All these stem from ourselves , which is either from worldly knowledge, or our tradition, so, if there is any situation changes, we will stop at no time.

But, if examine the below verses, we will detect the problem:

John. 16:13 “However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell you things to come. ”

What does it mean guide you into all truth:

All we have and can do it is understand, which is built on worldly knowledge

But, how does bible say?

[Isa 55:8] For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD.

[Isa 55:9] As the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts.

Can we jump to heaven? Of course, no. So, every human efforts want to understand what GOD’s thoughts and ways, are ended up in vain, So, GOD want us

Into all truth, means: “Into Jesus”

Since Jesus is all in all, as

John. 1:3 “All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made.”

Jesus is the only way, there is no other way

John. 14:6 “Jesus said to him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.”

From Eph 1-6, there are five verses, all mention in Jesus

Eph. 1:1 “Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, to the saints who are in Ephesus, and the faithful in Christ Jesus:”

Eph. 1:3 “Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Christ,”

Eph. 1:4 “just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before Him in love, ”

Eph. 1:5 “having predestined us to adoption as sons by Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the good pleasure of His will,”

Eph. 1:6 “to the praise of the glory of His grace, by which He made us accepted in the Beloved.”

Below as revealed by two bible stories why we need to be in Christ:

Luke. 17:12 “Then as He entered a certain village, there met Him ten men who were lepers, who stood afar off.”

Luke. 17:13 “And they lifted up their voices and said, ‘Jesus, Master, have mercy on us!’”

Luke. 17:14 “So when He saw them, He said to them, ‘Go, show yourselves to the priests.’ And so it was that as they went, they were cleansed.”

Follow GOD’s will ==> In Jesus ==> Change in essence

In the beginning : Have leper

Following GOD’s will: Go, show yourselves to the priests

Then, they do accordingly

Finally: they were cleansed

What they are doing by faith ==> Change in essence (Miracle)

2 Kings 5:1 Now Naaman, commander of the army of the king of Syria, was a great and honorable man in the eyes of his master, because by him the LORD had given victory to Syria. He was also a mighty man of valor, but a leper.

2 Kings 5:2 2 And the Syrians had gone out on raids, and had brought back captive a young girl from the land of Israel. She waited on Naaman’s wife.

2 Kings 5:3 3 Then she said to her mistress, “If only my master were with the prophet who is in Samaria! For he would heal him of his leprosy.”

2 Kings 5:10 10 And Elisha sent a messenger to him, saying, “Go and wash in the Jordan seven times, and your flesh shall be restored to you, and you shall be clean.”

2 Kings 5:12 12 Are not the Abanah[a] and the Pharpar, the rivers of Damascus, better than all the waters of Israel? Could I not wash in them and be clean?” So he turned and went away in a rage.

2 Kings 5:13 13 And his servants came near and spoke to him, and said, “My father, if the prophet had told you to do something great, would you not have done it? How much more then, when he says to you, ‘Wash, and be clean’?”

2 Kings 5:14 14 So he went down and dipped seven times in the Jordan, according to the saying of the man of God; and his flesh was restored like the flesh of a little child, and he was clean.

2 Kings 5:15 15 And he returned to the man of God, he and all his aides, and came and stood before him; and he said, “Indeed, now I know that there is no God in all the earth, except in Israel; now therefore, please take a gift from your servant.”

Naaman wash in the Jordon seven times ==> flesh restored, clean

Action by Fatih ==> change in essence (miracle)

Naaman and ten lepers, can they understand what they are doing and leading to cure. Of course, the answers is NO, but can you understand

So being in Christ, we need to have the following attitudes

Luke. 9:23 “Then He said to them all, ‘If anyone desires to come after Me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow Me.”

Luke. 14:26 “‘If anyone comes to Me and does not hate his father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters, yes, and his own life also, he cannot be My disciple.”

Paul understand on the spiritual road, you should not have anything that is worldly, so he says

Phil. 3:7 “But what things were gain to me, these I have counted loss for Christ.”

Phil. 3:8 “Yet indeed I also count all things loss for the excellence of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord, for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and count them as rubbish, that I may gain Christ”

So, we should examine if there is any behavior , we do it because of Jesus , that is not accepted by ourselves or society. Then, we might experience the transformation of essence. This is what GOD want to give to us. In summary, following GOD’s will the major obstacle is that if we have to understand is complying with the truth of this world before we will do it, rather than enter into GOD’s truth by obey his command. Ridiculously, even though we do not follow his way and we still expect GOD’s miracle.

Following GOD’s way ==> Jesus live in ==> Change of essence

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Monday, June 8, 2020

P4 行道最大的阻礙

P4 行道最大的阻礙

現今的行道，是經過讀經，了解，同意後，才去行，一切的源頭是出於自己，根據的東西是世界的知識，或是傳統的文化，一旦不符合任何一樣的標準，就不做了

但是我們看下面的經文就可以知道問題的來源：

【約十六13】「只等真理的聖靈來了，祂要引導你們明白(原文作進入)一切的真理。因為祂不是憑自己說的，乃是把祂所聽見的都說出來；並要把將來的事告訴你們。」

明白一切的真理

“明白”是建立在世界的知識上

但是神的道是如何呢！

【賽五十五8】「耶和華說：“我的意念非同你們的意念，我的道路非同你們的道路。」
【賽五十五9】「天怎樣高過地，照樣，我的道路高過你們的道路，我的意念高過你們的意念。」

人可以一步登天嗎? 所以一切想要明白神的道的藉由人為努力都是枉然，所以神要我們

進入一切的真理是”進入基督”

基督是自有永有

【約一3】「萬物是藉著祂造的；凡被造的，沒有一樣不是藉著祂造的。」

基督是唯一, 別無他法

【約十四6】「耶穌說：『我就是道路、真理、生命。若不藉著我，沒有人能到父那裏去。」

【弗一1-6】裏面，有5句都提到在基督裏

【弗一1】「奉神旨意，作基督耶穌使徒的保羅，寫信給在以弗所的聖徒，就是在基督耶穌裏有忠心的人；」
【弗一3】「願頌讚歸與我們主耶穌基督的父神，祂在基督裏，曾賜給我們天上各樣屬靈的福氣。」
【弗一4】「就如神從創立世界以前，在基督裡揀選了我們，使我們在祂面前成為聖潔，無有瑕疵；」
【弗一5】「又因愛我們，就按著自己意旨所喜悅的，豫定我們，藉著耶穌基督得兒子的名分」：
【弗一6】「使祂榮耀的恩典得著稱讚；這恩典是祂在愛子裏所賜給我們的。」

下面要藉由二個聖經故事來解釋為何要進入基督裏

【路十七12】「進入一個村子，有十個長大痲瘋的迎面而來，遠遠的站著。」
【路十七13】「高聲說：『耶穌，夫子，可憐我們罷。』」
【路十七14】「耶穌看見，就對他們說：『你們去把身體給祭司察看。』他們去的時候就潔淨了。」

遵守 == > 神內住 == > 本質的改變

開始時光景: 長大痲瘋
遵守神的道: 你們去把身體給祭司察看
做什麼: 他們去把身體給祭司察看
最後得到: 潔淨了

你們去把身體給祭司察看=>潔淨

所行(信心) ====所是(神蹟)

【王下五1】「亞蘭王的元帥乃縵，在他主人面前為尊為大，因耶和華曾藉他使亞蘭人得勝。他又是大能的勇士，只是長了大麻風。」
【王下五2】「先前亞蘭人成群地出去，從以色列國擄了一個小女子，這女子就服侍乃縵的妻。」
【王下五3】「她對主母說：“巴不得我主人去見撒瑪利亞的先知，必能治好他的大麻風。”」
【王下五10】「以利沙打發一個使者，對乃縵說：“你去在約旦河中沐浴七回，你的肉就必復原，而得潔淨。”」
【王下五12】「大馬士革的河亞罷拿和法珥法，豈不比以色列的一切水更好嗎？我在那裡沐浴不得潔淨嗎？”於是氣忿忿地轉身去了。」
【王下五13】「他的僕人進前來，對他說：“我父啊，先知若吩咐你作一件大事，你豈不作嗎？何況說你去沐浴而得潔淨呢？”
【王下五14】「於是乃縵下去，照著神人的話，在約旦河裡沐浴七回，他的肉復原，好像小孩子的肉，他就潔淨了。」
【王下五15】「乃縵帶著一切跟隨他的人，回到神人那裡，站在他面前說：“如今我知道，除了以色列之外，普天下沒有　神。現在求你收點僕人的禮物。”」

乃縵去在約旦河中沐浴七回=>潔淨

所行(信心) ====所是(神蹟)

乃縵以及十個長大痲瘋病人，他們可以了解他們所做的能病得到痊癒嗎？就是今天也是不可能了解的。

所以進入基督, 我們必須有下面的態度

【路九23】「耶穌又對眾人說：『若有人要跟從我，就當捨己，天天背起他的十字架來，跟從我；」
【路十四26】「『人到我這裏來，若不愛我勝過愛自己的父母、妻子、兒女、弟兄、姐妹，和自己的性命，就不能作我的門徒。」

保羅深知在屬靈的路上，不能有任何屬世的東西，所以他説

【腓三7】「只是我先前以為與我有益的，我現在因基督都當作有損的。」
【腓三8】「不但如此，我也將萬事當作有損的，因我以認識我主基督耶穌為至寶。我為他已經丟棄萬事，看作糞土，為要得著基督；」

所以自己要檢驗是否有這種行為，不是自己，或是社會喜歡你去做，而你因為基督的緣故，而去做時，你就可能經歷本質翻轉的改變，這正是神要給你的。總而言之，行道最大的挑戰，就是在明白世界的真理（用世界的方法），而非進入一切的真理（神的方法）而期待能夠有神給的好處，

遵守 = > 神內住 = >本質的改變

Thursday, June 4, 2020

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